Random,

I don't know for the carbide, but for the GWIII I ordered, which I have some other deal on, I think the Invoice for the base, no options model is $104,701. This is on a MSRP of $107,995. This excludes all options and the infamous $2000 Destination Fee. I hope this helps.

 

Houston GW III - Thank you. Based on the nadaguides website listed by therooster the FFP discount tracks with the numbers that you posted above.

 

The tracking website works sometimes Wagoneer Vehicle Order Tracking, you just need your VON number

therooster - I meant that the numbers that Houston GW mentioned are in a similar ratio to what I am expecting invoice to be after going to the nada website you referenced.

I hit refresh on the Vehicle Order Tracking website at least once a day hoping that my delivery date will move up. Currently estimated delivery is 8 weeks away ...

 

therooster - I meant that the numbers that Houston GW mentioned are in a similar ratio to what I am expecting invoice to be after going to the nada website you referenced.

I hit refresh on the Vehicle Order Tracking website at least once a day hoping that my delivery date will move up. Currently estimated delivery is 8 weeks away ...

Ok - just making sure you knew about the tracker. It's good that you have an Estimated delivery date. And I think shipping was way slower last year plus they don't want to get peoples hopes up. Once its built and you get a window sticker you could get it as fast as 2 weeks. I think there is some buffer in the but then again, things can get delayed as well.

 

nadaguides website has invoice price. But it sounds like you already ordered, the dealer should be able to give you the invoice price. "FFP" is less than invoice and is listed right on the POC when your order is placed.

 

therooster - Thank you. I have a good idea about invoice price now from the nadaguides website you mentioned. The FFP plan says 1% less than invoice pricing if anyone else is interested.

The dealer sent me the "configuration preview" sheet that shows MSRP. I'll ask them to provide invoice pricing when I hear that the Wagoneer is being shipped.

 

when I ordered my Wrangler, the order sheet that I signed at the dealer and got a copy of included MSRP, Invoice, and employee pricing. See if you have gotten a similar sheet and check the pricing on it. Also, read up on what F&F pricing discount is.

 

Asyrian_knight - Thank you. I just emailed the dealership asking for the order sheet with MSRP, Invoice and employee pricing included as you suggested. It is my understanding from the FFP plan that issued me the code, that it is 1% below the invoice. (or is there something that you are trying to say that I need to investigate?)

 

The Tracking site is either poor or my dealer is wrong. I ordered mine on 12/14/22 and on 12/24 I checked and saw that I got a VIN and that on 12/20 production was scheduled, since then nothing. I called my dealer on 1/11 and he said it shows a shipping date on 1/26, which was great. Nothing changed on the tracking link. I called yesterday for an update and it still shows shipping on 1/26, so good news that there is no change, BUT I would have thought I would see in Production on the tracker but so far nothing. I am hoping that the tracker shows shipped on 1/26 or soon after.

Also to help with the FFA deal some more, I think my deal is the same, 1% under invoice plus $75. My GWIII has only 1 option, which is my River Rock paint, so my total MSRP is $110,640. My selling price is $106,274. My dealership also had a $2,000 rebate if I ordered by year end, so I got that also and my final sales price is $104, 274 + TT&L. When I did the math from the Invoice I gave previously and took off 1% and added $75, it exactly matches my selling Price, before rebate. I was given all this detail when I ordered and have a total due at delivery and details on the MSRP and Invoice.

 

Yea the tracker is hit or miss. But if yours is still shipping on 01/26 it should say in production by today. Start checking for your build sheet every night after 9 pm. Just change your to your VIN here: : https://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1C4SJVBP6PS511157

Great deal getting the extra $2k rebate I had a $1500 bonus cash but it expired and they won't take it. I have another one now I'm hoping they will take but it says its only good for 2022's so I doubt it.

 

Random,

I am surprised, but I guess not surprised with car dealers. My dealer was extremely upfront on all details, and printed them out for me. I even had them sign the deal and sign that my deposit is refundable if I want out of the deal once I see it.

 

yup same here. I had that sheet in hand when I left after putting in my order. They even honored the price even though the delivery charge and MSRP actually changed by a few hundred dollars. it wasn't even an issue and they didn't even bring it up. I paid what we agree to 9 weeks prior.

 

Random,

Thanks. I ordered from River Oaks CJDR and they were transparent. My dealer said it would be 4 months, so I am happily hoping the dates I got are good. The dealer yesterday told me this is much faster than planned and the only thing I can think, is that sold orders are jumping orders for inventory.

I will carefully watch the tracker now as it sounds like the tracker did a good job of following yours.

I would think that once it ships, it should not matter where the dealership is located. Given we are paying $2,000 for transport and its being produced in the US.

Obviously if mine is produced as I have been told, you will have a benchmark to gauge one for a Houston dealership.

 

I would think that once it ships, it should not matter where the dealership is located. Given we are paying $2,000 for transport and its being produced in the US.

The only reason it really matters for shipping is whether or not it gets on a train, which yours likely will. It just adds a step in the process that really shouldn't take long but in 2021 there were massive issues at the railyards. I think this has mostly cleared up.

 

While I was typing my last response they either had an epiphony or saw that I was active here. 87 to fill it up with gas and charge the battery 👀👀👀👀

I think it would be better for me to just take the 5 gallons it comes with, bring a jump pack and drive to the gas station myself. I have no clue what the t3ac line is for.

And the $395 is for them to inspect it when it gets to their dealership.

 

@Houston GW III

On your invoice did they charge you for the 5 gallons of fuel? $18.00 I just noticed that was different from the original document I was given.

 

@Houston GW III

On your invoice did they charge you for the 5 gallons of fuel? $18.00 I just noticed that was different from the original document I was given.

That $18 is on my invoice

 

lol tell them you don't want any fuel

 

Random,

I see code of YGE on my invoice form and it says 5 additional gallons of gas and there is no charge for it on my calculation. It appears this is all included in the MSRP, so I would tell them it's a double dip. Also I hav never heard of a dealership charging anyone for an inspection for delivery of a new car at a dealership. I would tell them that you will call Jeep and ask if the inspection and extra fuel are included in the MSRP. I am afraid you have a dealer that is BSing you. Sorry. What dealer are you using? I think they are just trying to get a few more bucks. Given what you sent, I can't tell what you are paying, etc. I did not receive any documentation like that.

 

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Random,

Here is the documentation they gave to me. You can find FFP and EP pricing and invoice and MSRP and you will see that Gasoline is included. The FFP of $106,274 is what I was charged, less their rebate of $2,000, so my actual dealership buy order uses $104, 274 plus TT&L

 

@Houston GW III Your link doesn't work for me. I am guessing that I am using the FFP/PP code that they are charging for that 5 gallons plus the other 21 gallons and whatnot.

 

 

Random,

I hope this helps

 

Thanks, it does.

My delivery date changed from March 8 to Feb 8 earlier today, so I at least have that good news.

 

Great News...I am waiting my impending birth, based now what my dealer said it should be this week.

 

I got 7% off invoice on mine today when I ordered. I have been researching and negotiating with dealers in my state as recommended on some of the Wrangler Forums.