After years of research of this brand/model and the competition, and a few weeks of shopping around, I finally pulled the trigger on a factory order.
2023 Grand Wagoneer Series 1 short wheel base, Body colored roof, 6.4L Hemi, Bench Seat, HD Tow package, and Convenience Group. Nothing else. (clip of Order sheet attached)
Order placed 4.19.23
Scheduled on 4.20.23 (got my VIN). Production scheduled for 5.16.23
I’ll keep updating this timeline as the order progresses. From what I could glean from all the Wagoneer forums I’ve read, and the salespeople I spoke to, orders now are taking on average 3-4 months, with some arriving sooner (6-8 weeks- crazy!) and some longer (5 months – eternity for some members…..though I think those who have been waiting for eternity placed their orders before the 2023 Model year went into the production line in Decemeber). I’ve also been tracking the RAM 1500 forum and it seems builds there are also speeding up, with order to delivery timeframes even being 1.5-2 months in cases. Remember the Wagoneer is built at the same Warren plant (to my knowledge).
A body colored roof is certainly available, although the online build tool does not allow it. Tell your salesperson what you specifically want. There is a code for it. Monotone paint and body colored roof (see my order sheet below). I went with white.
There was some discussion among our forum members that the HD Tow package was delaying some builds. I think that might have been true earlier in the year, but not so anymore IMO. My salesperson said nothing about the HD Tow addition (nothing good or bad). Also, if you’ve been playing with the Wagoneer Build online tool regularly (as I have), you’d have noticed the HD tow package was not even available for 2023 Grand Wagoneers for most of this year. That changed maybe 2-3 weeks ago and that option is back for the 2023 GW. Confirming my suspicion that part shortages are no longer holding up the HD Tow package.
As to my reason for the 6.4L Hemi vs the 3.0L Hurricane, well there’s some pretty good reasons for that, too long for this post. But I intend to keep my GW until the wheels falls (from old age hopefully – knock on wood). Yes there’s the known lifter failure issue that affects some of the 6.4’s but that’s a known issue with known solutions for both mitigation and correction once it happens. Also FCA/Stellantis knows full well about those issues so there shouldn’t be a question in the service department when diagnosing the issue for repair (IF it happens).
Also KEEP IN MIND, the 6.4L Hemi does NOT have engine auto start-stop! For those haters of ASS (auto start stop, for those with perverted minds), that should be a selling point. I am not a full blown hater of ASS but I strongly prefer not to have a non-hybrid vehicle go through that continuous start-stop routine, for obvious reasons. If anyone wants me to list an entire diatribe as to my other reasons for the 6.4L over the 3.0L I can do that in another post (HEMI vs Hurricane?).
I will detail my shopping experience in another post as this one is long enough already, but a long story short, Texas dealers SUCK. Mostly North TX (DFW) dealers but even the few I contacted in other areas of TX also SUCK. I ended up ordering from outside, from Mark Dodge in Louisiana (I know many have heard about them already). That will be a long but interesting drive when I fly in to pick it up.
IF anyone has any questions feel free to ask. And a general thanks to all the forum members who have been posting their experiences, which helped greatly in me reaching my decision (also the Ram 1500 forum for pointing me to the right dealership).