[PBGWIII]

Hello everyone. My name is Mark and I picked up my Grand Wagoneer yesterday and so far I love it! I had a 2018 Lincoln Navigator and a 2020 Escalade EXT and neither compare to the GW in my opinion. The ride quality is way better and so is the interior.

Here are a couple pics.

 

[Liles]

Hello everyone. My name is Mark and I picked up my Grand Wagoneer yesterday and so far I love it! I had a 2018 Lincoln Navigator and a 2020 Escalade EXT and neither compare to the GW in my opinion. The ride quality is way better and so is the interior.

Here are a couple pics.
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Congratulations Mark! Great looking Grand Wagoneer! What stands out to you the most about the Grand Wagoneer compared to the Navigator and Escalade you've owned?

 

[PBGWIII]

Thanks Liles,

The thing that stands out the most to me in my new GW is the ride quality when compared to the Escalade and the Navigator. This think rides so smoothly and is so quiet on the inside. The escalade rode like a truck with nice shocks, but it was still a truck chassis and you could feel that when going down the road. The Navigator was to soft and had a lot of body roll and it would "porpoise" over bumps, like an old 1970's Lincoln.

The interior would be the other thing that in my opinion is truly class leading. The attention to detail, look and feel of the interior components is heads and shoulders above the other two.

There are a few things in this price point ($111,000 vehicle!!!) that could be improved on, but they are minor, nit-picky things, like the plastic covers on the ends of each side of the dash. They do not match the color or the texture of the parts they butt up next to. The turn signal/windshield wiper controls look old compared to the rest of the interior (I would guess because they are out of an older vehicle). These seem like very minor things that would have been very inexpensive to make them match the rest of the vehicle better.

I have only had t for a couple of days now, so I am sure I will have more insights once I spend more time in it.

 

[Dlcorbett]

Qere you able to compare the ride to the 2021-22 gms?

 

[PBGWIII]

Qere you able to compare the ride to the 2021-22 gms?

I test drove the 2021 Escalade Platinum and it seemed like it was way softer of a ride and didn't handle as well as my 2020 Escalade EXT. It also felt like it was a bit top heavy and would almost rock side to side a bit. It was a very early unit, so that could have had something to do with it, but in general I think the GW is a better riding vehicle. I have had several people in it and a couplkd of friends drive it and they all have been surprised by the ride quality and how easy it maneuvers for such a large vehicle.

 

[PBGWIII]

Thanks Liles,

The thing that stands out the most to me in my new GW is the ride quality when compared to the Escalade and the Navigator. This think rides so smoothly and is so quiet on the inside. The escalade rode like a truck with nice shocks, but it was still a truck chassis and you could feel that when going down the road. The Navigator was to soft and had a lot of body roll and it would "porpoise" over bumps, like an old 1970's Lincoln.

The interior would be the other thing that in my opinion is truly class leading. The attention to detail, look and feel of the interior components is heads and shoulders above the other two.

There are a few things in this price point ($111,000 vehicle!!!) that could be improved on, but they are minor, nit-picky things, like the plastic covers on the ends of each side of the dash. They do not match the color or the texture of the parts they butt up next to. The turn signal/windshield wiper controls look old compared to the rest of the interior (I would guess because they are out of an older vehicle). These seem like very minor things that would have been very inexpensive to make them match the rest of the vehicle better.

I have only had t for a couple of days now, so I am sure I will have more insights once I spend more time in it.

So an update on the my GW3:

I have had a few issues with my phone pairing with the vehicle. Every once in a while it just won't pair. I have to pull over, restart the car and then it seems to be fine. I have a Samsung 20 Note+. I am waiting on the 22 to come out and will likely upgrade. That may solve the problem. an OTA update from FCA/Stallantis might do the trick as well.

I swear the stereo had a surround sound setting that is now gone with the last OTA update it received. Did anyone experience this? Am I crazy...?

We just finished applying ceramic coating to the vehicle including the paint, glass, and wheels. The paint for a brand new vehicle is not what I expect from a $100k+ vehicle. It has a ton of orange peel and it was already scratched. My detailer believes it must have been sitting out for some time, which I realize might be the case with the earlier production units and the parts shortage. However, he had to do a substantial amount of paint correction in order to get many surface scratches out of the paint before coating it. In addition, the majority of the panels on the vehicle are not aligned very well. The hood is off, the grill is much closer on one side than the other, the doors do not align with the roof, or each other, and the back hatch is mis-aligned...Oh, and the rear "Grand Wagoneer" badging is way off along with the "Series 3" badge. I will post some pictures when I have some time to do so.

So basically everything is a bit out of whack! I am not sure I want to take this to the dealer as I don't know what their qualifications are for this sort of thing. I think I am better off taking it to a body shop that a buddy owns and see what he thinks first.

As far as the body panels are concerned, my thought is if Jeep wants to play in the big boy luxury price points, they need to be way better in terms of fit and finish. My Escalade was way better than this, and GM isn't known for their fit and finish. I bought an Alpina B7 BMW that was in this price range and the paint was like glass and the body was perfect. (The engine...Not so much! LOL. It kept going into limp mode while still under warranty ) MY buddies Mercedes AMG GLE S Coupe is also way better in the paint and fit and finish areas. My wife's Ram 2500 has better paint and fit and finish. So I would chalk this up to it being a brand new model and the factory workers still not having the process down.

That is all for now. Pictures of the body will be next (And I will copy this to the appropriate section at that time with pictures there.)

 

[Roderickj10]

So an update on the my GW3:

I have had a few issues with my phone pairing with the vehicle. Every once in a while it just won't pair. I have to pull over, restart the car and then it seems to be fine. I have a Samsung 20 Note+. I am waiting on the 22 to come out and will likely upgrade. That may solve the problem. an OTA update from FCA/Stallantis might do the trick as well.

I swear the stereo had a surround sound setting that is now gone with the last OTA update it received. Did anyone experience this? Am I crazy...?

We just finished applying ceramic coating to the vehicle including the paint, glass, and wheels. The paint for a brand new vehicle is not what I expect from a $100k+ vehicle. It has a ton of orange peel and it was already scratched. My detailer believes it must have been sitting out for some time, which I realize might be the case with the earlier production units and the parts shortage. However, he had to do a substantial amount of paint correction in order to get many surface scratches out of the paint before coating it. In addition, the majority of the panels on the vehicle are not aligned very well. The hood is off, the grill is much closer on one side than the other, the doors do not align with the roof, or each other, and the back hatch is mis-aligned...Oh, and the rear "Grand Wagoneer" badging is way off along with the "Series 3" badge. I will post some pictures when I have some time to do so.

So basically everything is a bit out of whack! I am not sure I want to take this to the dealer as I don't know what their qualifications are for this sort of thing. I think I am better off taking it to a body shop that a buddy owns and see what he thinks first.

As far as the body panels are concerned, my thought is if Jeep wants to play in the big boy luxury price points, they need to be way better in terms of fit and finish. My Escalade was way better than this, and GM isn't known for their fit and finish. I bought an Alpina B7 BMW that was in this price range and the paint was like glass and the body was perfect. (The engine...Not so much! LOL. It kept going into limp mode while still under warranty ) MY buddies Mercedes AMG GLE S Coupe is also way better in the paint and fit and finish areas. My wife's Ram 2500 has better paint and fit and finish. So I would chalk this up to it being a brand new model and the factory workers still not having the process down.

That is all for now. Pictures of the body will be next (And I will copy this to the appropriate section at that time with pictures there.)

 

[Roderickj10]

You are not crazy. My surround sound option disappeared too. I tried to call the number for assistance but they were not helpful. Did you figure it out?
Thanks,
Rod

 

[PBGWIII]

You are not crazy. My surround sound option disappeared too. I tried to call the number for assistance but they were not helpful. Did you figure it out?
Thanks,
Rod

Awesome...I thought I was losing it! LOL.. I am sure it will reappear and likely sound even better on the next update.

 

[shelleybell71]

I know for a fact I had the surround sound option, because I have it in my RAM Limited and I clearly remember setting it on my GW SIII when I first got it in January. I was looking for it the other day, and mine is gone as well.