[maxb]

Hello,

As we know the grand Wagoneer cannot be ordered with 2nd row captain chairs WITHOUT the huge center console.

So I have two questions:

1. Is it possible to completely remove the center console? I know there are climate controls etc. in the center console but if I want to create a pass-through space in the second row of a Grand Wagoneer I am wondering if it's possible to complete remove this center console.

2. Likewise, if I order a grand wagoneer with the second row bench seat with 40/20/40 configuration, would it be possible to completely remove the middle "20" seat completely out of the vehicle to create a pass through space?

Thanks!

 

[Liles]

Welcome to the forum @maxb. I imagine it's possible to remove the center console if you're ambitious enough but the real question is what you'd do with all the wiring underneath.

Is there a particular reason why the pass through space is so important to you?

 

[maxb]

Is there a particular reason why the pass through space is so important to you?

Because I really like open space in the middle of captain chairs in 2nd row of the Wagoneers for easy pass thru to the third row. We have two big boys and a baby with car seat and it is important not having to fold the second row all the time to access the third row. Additionally, it makes the third row feel even more 'open', roomier and live-able with the pass thru space.

I plan on getting the Grand Wagoneer but the only two options for 2nd row are either the huge console ... OR ... the bench seat with 40/20/40 configuration.

Between these two options, I am biased towards getting the bench seat instead of the console which I really feel doesn't suite our family.

I wish Jeep starts offering the center console delete option (like escalade, denali etc.) because that would make it a perfect config.

So I am keen to know how the middle seat is attached to the floor and if it's possible to remove it

 

[Wardo]

Also wondering if the middle bench seat can be removed.

 

[TexasJester]

Hello,

As we know the grand Wagoneer cannot be ordered with 2nd row captain chairs WITHOUT the huge center console.

So I have two questions:

1. Is it possible to completely remove the center console? I know there are climate controls etc. in the center console but if I want to create a pass-through space in the second row of a Grand Wagoneer I am wondering if it's possible to complete remove this center console.

2. Likewise, if I order a grand wagoneer with the second row bench seat with 40/20/40 configuration, would it be possible to completely remove the middle "20" seat completely out of the vehicle to create a pass through space?

Thanks!

If for some reason you go through with pulling your console out please sell it to me!

 

[claud_face]

Has anyone figured out if this is possible? On the wagoneer? Not the grand wagoneer. Well, I supposed on either as info on both would be helpful.

Thanks!

 

[TexasJester]

I didn’t see that anyone has definitively answered this question so here goes. My Grand has the full second row seat which is sooo simple it’s impossible that it’s any better than a wagoneer. The middle section is completely stand alone. It has its on mounting brackets and is not connected to the seat on either side of it unless I missed something. It looks to me like 4 bolts and out it comes.

 

[TexasJester]

 

[TexasJester]

This picture is with center seat folded down & right seat in the forward position for getting into 3rd row. You can se the center seat is fully independent and can easily be removed.

 

[claud_face]

Thank you! That to me clearly looks like it is no problem. This is great news!

 

[Wardo]

If I can make time this weekend I will try and remove my middle bench seat. Looks simple enough.

 

[claud_face]

That would be amazing! Looking to order one early next week and it is a potential deal breaker if I could not remove it.

 

[Wardo]

That would be amazing! Looking to order one early next week and it is a potential deal breaker if I could not remove it.

We wanted captain chairs initially for the second row. That was a must have, but after using the single button to slide the seat forward we changed our minds.
It’s a game changer! Faster and more simple then powered seats and it’s easy enough my youngest can do it.
saved a few bucks and mainly didn’t have to order a vehicle and wait.

 

[Suzukster129]

Hello,

As we know the grand Wagoneer cannot be ordered with 2nd row captain chairs WITHOUT the huge center console.

So I have two questions:

1. Is it possible to completely remove the center console? I know there are climate controls etc. in the center console but if I want to create a pass-through space in the second row of a Grand Wagoneer I am wondering if it's possible to complete remove this center console.

2. Likewise, if I order a grand wagoneer with the second row bench seat with 40/20/40 configuration, would it be possible to completely remove the middle "20" seat completely out of the vehicle to create a pass through space?

Thanks!

I am not sure if anyone has removed the middle seat of the bench, but I did and have added photos here. There are four areas that expose the metal and a power cord (see photo). I purchased the Weathertech floor mats in hopes it covers the holes, if not I may just add a flat plastic strip to cover the holes and put the bolts back in. Took about 10 minutes total to do. 6 total bolts.

 

[Wardo]

I am not sure if anyone has removed the middle seat of the bench, but I did and have added photos here. There are four areas that expose the metal and a power cord (see photo). I purchased the Weathertech floor mats in hopes it covers the holes, if not I may just add a flat plastic strip to cover the holes and put the bolts back in. Took about 10 minutes total to do. 6 total bolts. View attachment 1453

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing

 

[ebob9]

Following up on this - I'd really like to do this for my Grand Wagoneer as well.

Any ideas on a floor mat to cover the space & cord? I've got the OEM All-weather mats - would love to find something similar to cover the area. Any good custom fit makers?

 

[ebob9]

Following up for anyone else who's interested in doing this - here's what I did to "clean up the look" a bit.

First, I pushed the cord for the seat connector under the rug - there's a groove there and it fits pretty easily.

Next, I got a couple grommets to fill the glaring holes in the chassis. I used a SoftSeal SS-0181 plug (1/2 in) and it fit good in the front elongated gap, but I had to trim it to fit in the back hole. I ordered a few extra and stuck them in some of the screw holes - they don't really fit there but good as any place to keep.

To cover the gap - I ordered the WeatherTech Trim to Fit mats - Trim-to-Fit Semi-Universal Car Floor Mat | WeatherTech .

I then trimmed the back strip mat as such:

After trimming - the two sides fit pretty well front/back and made a fairly seamless look (for now.)

This worked out well since I already had the factory water liners - the weathertech trim to fit was a good enough match for now (until someone finds/makes something better.)

 

[Wardo]

Following up for anyone else who's interested in doing this - here's what I did to "clean up the look" a bit.

First, I pushed the cord for the seat connector under the rug - there's a groove there and it fits pretty easily.

Next, I got a couple grommets to fill the glaring holes in the chassis. I used a SoftSeal SS-0181 plug (1/2 in) and it fit good in the front elongated gap, but I had to trim it to fit in the back hole. I ordered a few extra and stuck them in some of the screw holes - they don't really fit there but good as any place to keep.
View attachment 1492
View attachment 1493


To cover the gap - I ordered the WeatherTech Trim to Fit mats - Trim-to-Fit Semi-Universal Car Floor Mat | WeatherTech .

I then trimmed the back strip mat as such:
View attachment 1494


After trimming - the two sides fit pretty well front/back and made a fairly seamless look (for now.)
View attachment 1495

This worked out well since I already had the factory water liners - the weathertech trim to fit was a good enough match for now (until someone finds/makes something better.)

Following up for anyone else who's interested in doing this - here's what I did to "clean up the look" a bit.

First, I pushed the cord for the seat connector under the rug - there's a groove there and it fits pretty easily.

Next, I got a couple grommets to fill the glaring holes in the chassis. I used a SoftSeal SS-0181 plug (1/2 in) and it fit good in the front elongated gap, but I had to trim it to fit in the back hole. I ordered a few extra and stuck them in some of the screw holes - they don't really fit there but good as any place to keep.
View attachment 1492
View attachment 1493


To cover the gap - I ordered the WeatherTech Trim to Fit mats - Trim-to-Fit Semi-Universal Car Floor Mat | WeatherTech .

I then trimmed the back strip mat as such:
View attachment 1494


After trimming - the two sides fit pretty well front/back and made a fairly seamless look (for now.)
View attachment 1495

This worked out well since I already had the factory water liners - the weathertech trim to fit was a good enough match for now (until someone finds/makes something better.)

Where did you buy the rubber plugs?
SoftSeal SS-0181?
Also the weather tech mat, did it come with generic front mats to for only $54 bucks?
You have the mopar mats? I like those better then weather tech’s

 

[Wagasaurus_Rex]

FYI you can buy just the 2nd/3rd combo mat to cover that gap for $100 from weathertech. 2022 Jeep Wagoneer Floor Mats - Laser measured Floor Mats For Perfect Fit | WeatherTech

I already have the 8 passenger mats, but plan on removing the center jumper seat for longer trips, so thats my plan. swap out the rear mats when I remove/reinstall the center seat. As pointed out above its pretty quick and easy to unbolt and pull it out. Id also bet money the GW center console would bolt into that hole as well.

 

[Wagononorder]

Thanks for sharing. Since you removed the center console and that had the controls for the rear heated seats, AC, etc. I'm assuming you can still control it all from the front? Did it cause any glitches or errors?